Charles Marsh: I think the idea of the dichotomized gospel is important in understanding this situation of the white Christian in the South.
Spencer Perkins: I don't look at it at all as white Christians even having the ability to make individual decisions about it. It's a collective way of life that I would say, if anyone was to be responsible, it'd be the Christian leadership. The average individual man or female, white, in the 60s, I wouldn't figure them to be responsible.
CM: If they're responsible, they're responsible, that is they're sympathetic to desegregation or pragmatic reasons, economic reasons or whatever, but it's certainly not reasons that flow from their faith.
SP: Right. They wouldn't know any better, and they're like sheep… it's the shepherd's responsibility to teach them (unclear). The churches were a bastion of segregation.