Charles Marsh: Atlantic City? Did it really come as a surprise to you.
Cleveland Sellers: It was disillusioning. You have to understand the idealism. That idealism and hope that was raised that you want them to win; some of these people had never been out of the state. You want them to make a difference; to jump for joy and say I did it, I did it, a certain amount of hope build around this. But the local people took the defeat much better than we did. We were mad! We were some upset rascals.